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May 16, 2010

Printing, ICC Profiles and the “Perfect Print”

Filed under: Printing — admin @ 11:13 pm

A friend of mine has some very important photos that he’s having a rough time getting printed to his satisfaction.

He’s spent hours on each one, and has each photo tuned exactly as he wants it printed. He worked with an expert to get the image just exactly right. At this point, no changes to the photo files are allowed… not even copies!

 

Now, I don’t understand what his point is here, honestly. You can simply duplicate the “adjusted reference file” and work on the copy to your heart’s content, tweaking it in all manner of ways, and printing out copies until you end up with one that looks like the unaltered reference print. That’s the “normal” way of doing it… but (given that a digital copy is 100% the same as the original) for reasons I don’t understand,  he insists on using the original file, and without making any adjustments.

 

Needless to say, then, he’s having a devil of a time achieving prints he likes. He’s taken them everywhere, and can’t get a print that satisfies him. And he’s no dummy: so I assume he knows he’ll never get a print that looks as vibrant as the image on the monitor. Reflected light vs transmitted, etc etc. But even given that, he’s still not happy.

 

I’ve even offered to do a free print for him, but for some reason (perhaps he thinks friends couldn’t possibly know as much as “pros” – despite the fact that I taught this stuff at the graduate level) he’s declined my offer.

 

So, instead, I’m inspired to write this entry. Perhaps he fully grasps all this already, in which case, this blog entry will likely prove useful to some of my other readers. Honestly, I don’t know if he fully understands color spaces in the first place. (During a conversation, he said “Straight through prints seem to be the best” by which I’d take it that he managed somewhere along the line to find a shop with a properly calibrated setup.)  So,  I’m inspired to write this bit of an introduction. (If you are he reading this, and you do understand all this, at least you can decide if I know what I’m talking about. And if instead you are a regular reader of my blog, perhaps this will demystify something for you.)



First, regarding his photo files, here’s what I don’t know: I don’t know what monitor was used to adjust the photos in the first place. That is, I don’t know if it, like the vast majority, was not capable of encompassing the Adobe RGB 1998 space, or if was one of the newer, better ones that can handle 95-110% of the ARGB space. (People tend to think they want what’s on the monitor to show up in the printer, and it can’t. Period. It can’t. Among o ther things, you’re most likely looking at less than what the printer can print, not more. )

 

Yes: that means that the print (at least one off a good printer) will have a wider tonal range and more subtlety than you can actually see on most monitors (except those designed to show the ARGB color space.)

 

I don’t know if  the monitor recently and correctly calibrated. Heck: I don’t even know if the print files have been prepared for output.

 

But more importantly are these two things: I don’t know if the files are 8 bit or 16-bit; and  I don’t know what color space they are saved in: sRGB, ARGB, or ProRGB.

 

Color Spaces

They are called “spaces” because they come in different sizes. Think of a circle, with white in the middle, and gradually going outward toward the edges to reach fully saturated colors on the perimeter. Red off in one direction; blue off in another; green in yet another direction.

 

Now, say we have three of those circles, each doing that same thing, but one circle is small, one medium size, and one large. (Think dime, nickle, quarter.) The white in the middle of each is the same white; the saturation level of the colors on the outer edges is the same. What’s different (because of the different sizes) is how far it is from the center to the edge.

 

That is, the larger the circle, the greater the number of subtle levels of gradation, from the center to the edge. So, if you want a wide range of tones, say a sky ranging from light at the horizon to the dark of night overhead, you want a wide color space to be able to present that perfect gradual change smoothly. If the color space is too small, you’ll see “bands” in the gradation.

 

OK, those small, medium and large color spaces are sRGB, Adobe RGB (ARGB) and ProRGB.

 

A good camera and a good scanner can exceed all of those in tonal width.

 

No monitor can show all the ProGRB space, because the monitor’s color space size is somewhere in between small and medium.

 

No printer can print the ProRGB space. Epson printers can print most (but not all) of the ARGB space. Almost every printer can print sRGB (and every monitor can show it.) sRGB was designed to be the smallest color space on purpose: because every camera can capture it; every monitor can show it; every printer can print it.

 

On the other end of the scale, ProRGB is so wide that no monitor or printer can come close to encompassing all those tonal ranges.

 

Here’s an analogy I used a lot in teaching: if the printer color space is the size of a dime, ProRGB is the size of a quarter. Imagine laying the dime on the quarter, and you’ll see what I mean.

 

What is ProRGB for then? Adjusting photos in (usually) Photoshop. When you’re making adjustments, you want all the tonal detail you can get.

 

But when you’re done making those adjustments (which, remember, you cannot see because no monitor made can show them …  and yes: that’s why experience doing this sort of stuff is the only substitute) you MUST save a reduced color-space copy, likely in Adobe RGB, for the printer to use. Keep it 16-bit if you’re fortunate enough to have access to an Epson Professional printer, otherwise, drop it down to 8 bit. (That’s entirely printer dependent.)

 

So, with that background, the worst possible kinds of files for him to have to hand off to a master printer would be ProRGB. By definition, the printer driver will be transforming the image like mad, altering shades and tonalities to fit the space of the printer itself.

 

Next worst would be 16 bit files going to an 8-bit printer. Same thing… the printer driver will have to toss out information to get the 16-bits down to 8 (that is, by the way, 32,000 shades and tones down to 256.)

 

The “guaranteed-to-work” version of the files is, of course, sRGB, and while that’s fine for “drugstore” prints, no fine artist would choose it because of the limited tonal steps. (There are exceptions; see below.)

 

That leaves what everyone uses: Adobe RGB.

 

So, if he was treated right by his advisor,  he came out with files using the Adobe RGB color space, either in 8-bit or 16-bit. To get the best inkjet printing, he’d want 16-bit with Epson Pro printers. (There are other printing methods, of course, but I’m not discussing those here.)

 

If he came out with ProRGB files, or sRGB files for the printer, then he’s virtually never going to get a print he likes. (That said, notice that I said “for the printer.” What he should have come away with is several files for each image: one ProRGB for editing; one or two or more for printing, and of course, the unaltered scan/or original file.)

 

So… now we’re at the point where for printing photos (not books -  photos, on pro inkjet gear) he needs ARGB, 16 or 8 bit files and a printer that can print as much of that space as possible.

 

Notice I said, “as much as possible” since printers can’t fully encompass the ARGB space either. Going back to the coin example, think of a dime on a penny. The penny is just slightly larger, but not by much (and nothing like the dine-on-quarter example above.) Now instead of having that dime exactly centered on the penny, push it off to one side, but just barely overhanging the edge of the penny.

 

The dime covers 95% of the penny, but 5% or so is outside the dime’s coverage, like a crescent moon.

 

The dime represents the printer, which can print about 95% of the ARGB space, represented by the penny.

 

So now here we are: photo files that are “client perfect” and I take him at his word on that. I assume that if one of those files was given to me, I’d find it to be AdobeRGB 1998, 16-bit. (Photoshop will let you “assign” a color space, or “convert to” a color space. The files must have been “convert(ed) to” the new space, not assigned. “Assigned” only works within Photoshop.

 

So, (back to the dime on the penny) what do we do about the part of the color (the penny) that is not encompassed by the printer’s range (is not covered by the dime)? (The phrase for that is the penny has a larger “gamut” than the dime, so the penny has parts that are “out of gamut” (for the dime.)

 

Well, there are two possible solutions.

 

1) you can imagine the penny is made of rubber, and you shrink it to the size of the dime. In that case, every single point on the penny moves when it compresses. The result is a smaller space (dime-sized) but everything moved proportionately, and so it looks “right” to the eye when printed. The color relationships themselves remain the same as in the original, but every single color has changed very slightly; in most cases, imperceptibly.  To the viewer who has never seen the image before, everything looks perfectly correct.

 

Put it up next to the original, unaltered file, and it will look different.

OR…

 

2) you imagine that everywhere in the penny that is covered by the dime stays absolutely fixed. In that area, nothing changes; every pixel in the dime is directly over the exact same pixel in the penny. And the stuff that is not covered by the dime; is “out of gamut”s? It all get jammed down to the very edge of the dime. That is, the colors beneath the dime stay exactly the same… but anything outside of the dime gets converted to what’s on the edge of the dime… it’s totally altered in other words. “Clipped” in one sense.

 

Put it up next to the original, unaltered file, and it will look different.

Those are called “rendering intents” and the first is “perceptual” while the second is “relative colormetric.”

 

In both cases, the image looks different, but in a different way in each case.

 

What’s the bottom line here? That the printer is the limiting factor here. That so far, no printer can take a file “straight thru” and print it as is (unless it’s in sRGB form.) It doesn’t work that way. Choices have to be made, compromises taken: you have to deal with out-of-gamut somehow.

There is a way around it, however: just  make sure that no colors fall into that out-of-gamut area. And there are two ways to do that. One we have already covered: sRGB.

 

Some artists have, in fact, chosen to produce their final printer file in sRGB form, since that way they really can get exactly what they see on the monitor on to their print. Nothing is out-of gamut. That is an artistic choice which I would recommend only for images which have strong colors, and do not depend on subtle shades for the correct impact.

 

Personally, I prefer the wider range of ARGB, even though some of it lies outside the range of the printer, and I therefore have to make choices about how to handle that compromise.

 

And that leads to the second way to make sure your colors are “in-gamut” – if you know  the paper, ink and printer to be used for a print in advance,  you can adjust the image in Photoshop  using the ICC profiles for that printer/ink/paper/driver. You can bring the greens and blues into range for that kind of print. (That is, although the ARGB space is wider than the printer’s space, you can adjust those “out of gamut” colors to be inside the gamut of the printer.)

 

Is this tricky? Yes. Is this time-consuming? Yes. Does this require experience? Yes. And this could not have been the case for my friend, since he didn’t know the printer/ink/paper/driver in advance. There’s about a 99.99% chance his images are out-of-gamut.

 

I can only hope that some well-meaning “expert” didn’t send  him out the door with ProRGB files.

 

Unfortunately such an approach has severe limitations as well, the most obvious one being, now that printer file is for one, and only one, combination of printer/ink/paper/driver and could not be used elsewhere without undergoing significant color shifts.

 

So without that kind of initial file-adjustment, one is left with choosing a rendering intent because some of the file’s color space will invariably end out outside the range of the printer, and a decision about what to do with that out-of-gamut color will simply have to be made.

 

In theory, a perfectly calibrated monitor will allow for photo adjustment. Pass that on to a master printer who has a perfect ICC profile for his printer/ink/paper/driver combination, and what should come out the other side is a perfect representation of the image as the client wants it.

 

What happens in practice, however, is different. It’s reflected light on the print vs transmissive light on the monitor. It’s RGB on the monitor but CMYK on the printer. The monitor shows deeper into the shadows than the print. If you’re not a master printer, you can’t look at a monitor and “see” what the print will look like… and make the changes necessary to compensate.

 

And in my friend’s case, since he refuses to alter the files (and he should not, if they really are printer ready) then the only adjustments left to be made are during the printing process. One can change the paper and ink. Change the ink density. And for critical work  one can create modified custom ICC profiles for each file. (That is non-trivial work, and again would leave him in the position of the custom profile working with only one combination of printer/ink/paper/driver.)

 

My first suggestion was to work on a copy of the original file, but that was, as I said, nixed at the outset, for reasons I don’t understand. Since you can only tweak the file or the printer however, ultimately that was my suggestion to him:  get custom ICC profiles for each photos. Stay with one printer-bureau who will make them; stay with the same inks; the same printer.

 

Better yet, when you finally get “the right print” run off a bunch of them all at once. Today’s inks and papers will last a couple of hundred years, so there’s no point in doing them one at a time.

 

Meanwhile, the offer of a free print still stands.  :-)



 

May 9, 2010

Paper curl and the Epson 3800

Filed under: Printing,Techniques — admin @ 4:10 pm

 

The 3800 doesn’t have the nice suction feature of my old 4000, which served to keep the paper flat throughout the full path.

Specifically, today I was printing an 21 1/2 image on some 17 x 22 Ilford Galerie GFS, and as it came out everything looked great… until the last 1.5 inches. There, exactly centered was an inch or so of scratch marks, about 1.5 inches wide.
scratches.jpg

Obviously what had happened is that the moisture of the ink caused the length of the paper to bow upwards (that is the long edges curled down) and once the paper was past the roller/teeth, it popped up and the head scratched it.

Two solutions. The obvious one was to set the platen (sic) width to “wider” which I did. But the other one was mechanical – I wanted to reduce that curl.

My solution was to take one of my 3″ diameter mailing tubes, and cut it in half, length-wise. That gave me a ‘hump’ about 1.5 inches high.

halftube.jpg

I put that on the paper support tray, about half way out running parallel to the printer body, like a speed-bump in a road. When the printer had spewed out that much paper, I guided the paper onto that “hump”, which induced a bit of a 90º curl to it, and effectively flattened the rest of the paper on its way out.

… and I managed to lose only one sheet of paper to learn this lesson.

hth
Tracy


 

December 23, 2009

Suddenly, gray borders on photo prints; ABW profiles missing

Filed under: Printing — admin @ 3:21 pm

Edit March 29, 2010: Unfortunately, updating to 10.6.3 did not correct the problem with V4 ICC profiles for me….

My photos suddenly started printing with great wide gray borders, for no reason I could imagine. I thought nothing had changed… but obviously something had.

I tried reinstalling Photoshop CS4; reinstalling the Mac 10.6.2 update; moving ICC profiles around… and generally messed with it until frustration took over.

I finally wrote to a group that provides Photoshop support, but they simply gave me basic lessons on where ICC profiles should reside, and then became fairly condescending when I suggest that I knew all that, and the sudden appearance of these gray borders pointed at something deeper.

Shortly, I discovered that it was only the custom profiles I’d made with my ColorMunki that were causing the problem. I wrote to X-Rite and they responded courteously, admitting that others had started experiencing it too, and offered several suggestions.

I reinstalled CS3, and the profiles worked. I remade the profiles in version 2 ICC format instead of version 4, and they worked in CS3 and CS4.

I am continuing to work with X-Rite so see if there is a better solution, and will keep this note updated.

I’ll cut to the chase here: what it turns out to be is the combination of 10.6.2, version 4 ICC profiles, and PhotoShop CS4. Change any of these (including substituting version 2 profiles, or printing from CS3) and the gray borders go away.

At this point, it appears that one can either remake (or replace) custom ICC profiles with version 2 profiles, or simply wait for Apple to fix it (10.6.3 anyone?) or Adobe to fix Photoshop.

I should note that just before I did my detective work, another blogger also reached the same conclusion, and you can read his report here:

http://exactexposure.blogspot.com/2009/12/adobe-photoshop-cs4-and-apple-os-1062.html

I’ll also note that there is one other effect of 10.6.2: the ABW (Advanced Black and White) profiles I created* for B&W output, using the data from the ColorMunki, and the QuadTone RIP generator, no longer show up at all in the CS4 profile list. These are listed as version “2.10″ instead of “2.0″ but I’m not sure whether that is the issue, or something else. Again, it may just be up to Apple to undo whatever they did in 10.6.2 with ICC profiles.

I’m still working on this one.

(later…) Aha! If you are creating these ABW profiles described above, use the script “QTR-Create-ICC-RGB” instead of “QTR-Create-ICC” and the profiles will be seen. Yes: this means you have to make them all over again… (or, as noted, wait and see if Apple fixes it in 10.6.3…)

Hope this helps someone else from pulling their hair out. :-)

*http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/bw_printing/bw_print_colormunki.html

LATER

How to print a target without Apple’s Colorsync mucking it up:

Please read the full page where I got this: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/solving.shtml

The heart of that page is printed below for your convenience. I take no credit for this solution.

Open (untagged) profile target image in CS4.
Edit -> Assign Profile… -> Adobe RGB. Click OK.
File -> Print…
Set Color Handling = Photoshop Manages Colors.
Set Printer Profile = Adobe RGB.
Set Rendering Intent = Relative Colorimetric.
Uncheck Black Point Compensation.

Click Print…

In the Epson driver, disable color management, and choose whatever driver settings you normally want to use for printing on your chosen paper (e.g., 16-bit, appropriate media type, thickness, High Speed = Off, etc.)
Print.

Please note that it does NOT matter that Adobe RGB is used as the profile in the workaround. You could use Pro Photo RGB instead, for example. It DOES matter that you choose the exact same profile in the “Assign Profile” dialog box and the “Print” dialog box. Make sure that you DO NOT choose “Working RGB-xxxx” as the printer profile.

December 27, 2008

ABW ICC profiles for Epson 3800 and Macintosh

Filed under: Printing — admin @ 2:20 pm

Free ABW (Advanced Black and White) Profiles for the Epson 3800 and Macintosh

NOTE: 12/25/09 – As of 10.6.2, these profiles will not show up in Photoshop. Apple made some kind of change that wreaked havoc on ICC profiles in OS 10.6.2. I’ll try to get these fixed, or perhaps 10.6.3 will fix them. (My fixes, when available, will not be as complete, since I don’t use some of those listed papers any more.) See my more recent blog post “Suddenly, gray borders on photo prints” for more details.

I’ve posted here my Epson Advanced Black and White (ABW) profiles for the Epson 3800 printer with K3 inks, and the Macintosh computer. (Note: profiles are posted as I create them.)

Included in the single zipped archive are ABW profiles for 17 papers:

Canson Arches Museum Velin Rag
Canson PhotoGloss Premium
Canson PhotoSatin Premium
Canson Rag Photographique
Epson Enhanced Matte
Epson Premium Luster
Epson SemiMatte
Epson Velvet Fine Art
Epson WaterColor
HawkMountain Sharpwing Luster
Hahnemuhle Bamboo
Hahnemuhle Fine Art Baryta
Legion Entrada Natural
Mitsubishi Gekko Blue
Mitsubishi Gekko Green
Museo Max
Red River Ultra Pro Gloss

Click here to get the profiles.

NEW PROFILES – to get around the 10.6.2 ICC profiles issues are below. They include:

Epson Enhanced Matte
Epson SemiMatte
Epson Velvet Fine Art
HawkMountain Sharpwing Luster
Hahnemuhle Fine Art Baryta
Legion Entrada Natural
Mitsubishi Gekko Blue
Mitsubishi Gekko Green
Museo Max
(write if you want one of the others)

Click here to get these revised profiles.

NOTICE! These profiles were made for MY setup, and are therefore provided AS IS. In exchange for getting them for free, you acknowledge that they may be completely unsuitable for you, and you are using them at your own risk.

The profiles were made using “No color management / printer manages color” setting with perceptual RI, and ABW set to “Normal” and all other settings to zero. Prints were allowed to try for 24 hours prior to measurement.

The paper manufacturer’s recommended paper setting was used in all cases.

The way the names will appear in the profile list in Photoshop is this:

Each will begin with ABW_ (making it easy to keep them all together.)

Next is the manufacturer’s code:
CA = Canson/Arches
HK = HawkMountain
HN = Hahnemuhle
MU = Museo
LP = Legion Paper (Moab)
MB = Mitsubishi (Gekko)
EP = Epson
RR = RedRiver

next is the paper

If a number follows, it is the weight of the paper

and finally the paper setting used
EM – enhanced matter;
VFA – velvet fine art;
WC – watercolor;
PL – Premium Luster;
PG – Premium Glossy;
PSG – Premium SemiGloss

To use these profiles, do this:

Place the profile in your ~/library/colorsync/profiles folder.

When printing, choose “Photoshop manages colors” and select the appropriate ABW profile. Set the rendering intent to perceptual.

In the print driver dialog, be sure you have selected the proper paper, and set it up for ABW printing, using the same settings as I did when creating the profile.

Remember that matte paper really needs 12-24 hours to dry, and will look darker when first removed from the printer. If after 24 hours, what you’re seeing is too dark or too light compared to your (properly calibrated) monitor, then repeat the print, choosing darker or lighter from the ABW popup, instead of “Normal.”

Thanks to Roy Harrington, maker of QuadTone RIP , for his permission to use his script to convert my raw numbers into actual ICC profiles and distribute them.

December 26, 2008

On my paper choices: matte for B&W

Filed under: Printing — admin @ 7:05 pm

I print using an Epson 3800 with K3 inks.

I’ve just spent a couple of months and many hundreds of dollars running my own tests on papers from a number of manufacturers, from Red River to Canson. I’ve run standard tests, and then from those chosen papers for my own hand-made ICC profiles.

Now, paper is a highly subjective choice. Not only does it depend on the artist’s eye, but within his range of photos, a type and warmth (or lack thereof) depending on the image and artist’s intent.

I generally think of mattes for B&W since I love the deep blacks and velvet tones that a matte paper affords. But then that does not apply to all B&W photos, as some demand brilliant white highlights. You may or may not want to peer into the shadows; you may or many not want a silver tone. And the save type of caveats apply to surface textures.

So my own predilections are – for B&W: mattes with a very flat surface, and for color, a RC paper… generally speaking. That’s my “bent” not hard and fast rules.

And that said, in terms of matte papers, I have got to say that for my tastes those from Canson/Arches were, across the whole line, quite fine. After testing hundreds of sheets of paper from all the more common names, I tested the Canson products last… because as others have noted, they are probably the most expensive papers, and testing is not cheap. That said, I guess it should have come as no surprise that the paper chosen by Picasso, Miro, Renoir and others turned up at the top of my tests.

Deep rich blacks and a wonderful ability to accept the full range of tones made them stand out. My carefully crafted nuances translated perfectly to the paper. The feel of the papers was of quality, and if they were a buck to two more per sheet than all of the others, it was money well spent.

Mechanically: no dust; no cruft. Perfectly flat out of the box. I had found my matte paper.

(Caution: you cannot roll these papers for mailing; they must be sent flat.)

Particularly, I liked the Arches Velin Museum Rag. If I had to choose just one Canson paper, this would be it. (For proofing this paper, try Red River Aurora Natural 64lb.) The Canson BFK Rives is also a delight. I’d honestly have to mention all their matte papers to be fair, since all of them were simply excellent (although some had more texture than I care for.) I have never “gushed” about an entire line of paper before, but this is the exception that proves the rule.

OK… let’s be fair: are their other good matte papers? Sure, and nice ones too.

For papers with OBs, the Epson WaterColor and Velvet Fine Art and Moab Entrada Rag Bright are good, as is the Red River Premium Matte 2.0 or Plus. Without OB’s it’s Canson first, followed by Museo Max; Entrada Natural and Hahnemuhle Photo rag or HawkMountain Condor Natural.

I’d like to suggest that you get a sampler of the Canson papers and have a go at it. I think you’ll be as pleased as I was.

Next up: the RC (resin coated) papers for B&W.

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